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Indians Sell Their Heart & Soul to the Devil
Written by Kirk Lammers   
Friday, 31 July 2009 16:08


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Yesterday morning, young Victor Jose Martinez asked his father Victor when he woke up if they were still Indians. When the then-Tribe catcher told his son that they in fact were, he was excited. That shouldn't surprise you though, because that's the kind of family values and loyalty Martinez would instill in his own son, the one we've come so accustomed to seeing around the Indians on a regular basis, including when he joined his dad at The All-Star Game (pictured above in 2007) and also in last month's contest.

Mark Shapiro yesterday completed the initial process of rebuilding when he sent Victor Martinez to the Red Sox for RHP Justin Masterson, LHP Nick Hagadone, and RHP Bryan Price. In just a few short weeks, the team has parted ways with Mark DeRosa, Rafael Betancourt, Ryan Garko, Ben Francisco, Cliff Lee, and now Martinez. In return, they've received 11 players, nine of them pitchers and most of them being big, power arms in the hopes of re-infusing the player development system.

Masterson was a member of the Red Sox bullpen for most of this season, but he has been used as both a starter and reliever at the big league level for Boston. He is 24 and listed at 6'6" and 250 pounds. He was rated the #4 prospect in Boston's minor leagues at the start of the 2008 season and listed at #64 in Baseball America's Top 100 Prospects the same year. Masterson posted a 6-5 record with a 3.16 ERA in 88 1/3 innings and 36 appearances (9 starts) last season. He had nine appearances for the Red Sox in the 2008 postseason as well. This season, he is 3-3 with a 4.50 ERA in 72 innings (31 appearances, 6 starts). The Tribe will have Masterson in the starting rotation before the '09 season ends, but he needs to be stretched out first.

Hagadone is just 14 months removed from Tommy John surgery, but he has already been throwing for two months with solid success. The 6'5" 230 pound 23-year-old lefty at Single-A is 0-2 in 25 innings with a 2.52 ERA with 32 strikeouts and 14 walks. Hagadone has been clocked at 98 mph on his fastball and has an above average slider. He was the #3 prospect in Boston's system this year. He'll report to Lake County.

Price is a 6'4" 210 lb. righty who is at Single-A as well. At 22 years old, he is the 20th ranked prospect in Boston's organization. This year, he is 4-8 with a 4.67 ERA in 19 starts and 96 1/3 innings between Single-A and advanced Single-A. He will be reporting to Kinston.

From an objective standpoint, this deal was absolutely necessary, and in my opinion, the Indians probably got a pretty good return for Martinez. From an emotional standpoint, it absolutely sucks, and it ends most likely the hardest week of my Indian fanhood.

The economic turmoil is very real for the Indians right now. With their current penny-pinching owner, the Tribe was not going to able to improve on a team that was underperforming and hanging around the basement this season as well as last season. They have now saved $16 million dollars guaranteed off of next year's payroll by saying goodbye to Martinez and Lee, and they in effect saved more by trading away an option on Betancourt and control of Francisco and Garko's rights. Victor is 30 now, and by the time the Tribe is ready to compete again, he would probably be at least 32 or 33, and his production would begin to slope downward during their potential run.

The reason this is even more hard to swallow is because of the man that Victor Martinez is; not just as a ballplayer, but as a leader, as a family man, as a representative loyal to and proud of his franchise, and as a human being. J.V. and I were discussing last night that it is very fair to compare Martinez and Sandy Alomar Jr. in terms of the footprint that each of the backstops left in their time with the Indians. While neither was likely the biggest star on the team, they were strong leaders and fan favorites. The hole created when Alomar left the Tribe in 2000 cut a lot of Tribe fans deeply, as I know this one already has. Both of them were multiple-time All-Stars who were considered fixtures of their respective eras. Martinez was more offensively gifted, but Alomar had more postseason moments and was a better defensive player. Both were unforgettable as Indians.

In the hardest press conference I've ever had to and ever hope to watch, Victor sported oversized sunglasses to hide his red eyes and spoke in a very slow, quiet, monotone voice. He stayed true to the organization that signed him before he turned 18 years old. Victor stated that after some seasoning, he thought this team would be competitive again and that they would be a solid team once again. Vic also thanked the fans for all their support throughout everything and said, "This is my house. I'm leaving my house."

In today's game, it's refreshing to have a guy like Victor Martinez who was an incredible human being to the core. He WANTED to stay an Indian for his entire career; he didn't hide that desire either. In so many stories, we talk about guys wanting out of Cleveland or choosing to not come to Cleveland via free agency. But this guy, this ALL-STAR, WANTED TO STAY IN CLEVELAND!

But that doesn't matter in Major League Baseball's flawed, broken, piece of CRAP structure. Until they fix it, as much as they want to, guys like Victor Martinez and the Cleveland Indians won't be able to stay together.

What I'll always remember about V-Mart is his ability to come out with the same positive, hardworking attitude every single day of a 162-game schedule. His funloving personality was a thrill to watch, but he was also serious when necessary.

No one enjoyed that 2007 AL Central crown more than Victor Martinez. He looked joyful and euphoric when that last swing and miss occurred against Oakland in September of 2007.

Much like his little Victor, in that moment, he was just happy to be a Cleveland Indian.

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written by a guest, August 01, 2009
indians have been garbage since they let go of lofton...ramirez...belle...vizquel...
alomar...thome and so on and so on
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written by X Indian Fan, August 02, 2009
Once again an Ohio team is dumping payroll... Maybe it would be more beneficial to sell the club and in return turn,what once was a dominate Jacob's Field, into a Men's 45 and older softball stadium. They can change the name to Viagra Park. We just let go two key players that were the backbone of this bush league team. Every year July 31st approaches and every year I wonder what grocery bagging players we are going to get. Everybody praised Shapiro for making the trade that brought Lee and Sizemore to the Indians. But in the end what was the point? So we can watch one of the win a Cy Young award and the very next year trade him? These trades don't mean shit if you aren't willing to re-sign the young talent you have.... instead of letting these players grown into star athletes so someone else can benefit from them. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Cleveland Indians organization is the equivalent to the "no child left behind program".

Thank you Cleveland and the Indians for once again giving me a reason to not want to come back to that state....

Chubu
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written by Hermie13, August 03, 2009
Sadly, this has NOTHING to do with the structure of baseball.

Look at the NBA and NHL. Both have salary caps to keep the 'big' boys from buying every player, yet small market teams STILL have to dump payroll and trade guys for virtually nothing.

It's all about the economy here. Would be nice to have even more revenue sharing, but even that really wouldn't have helped here.

I do agree that this trade really, really hurts. I didn't get any work done on Friday cause I was glued to the computer, updating the pages every few minutes almost praying that Victor wasn't gonna be traded....then a buddy texts me saying he was gone.
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written by Hermie13, August 03, 2009
I also agree though....we got a HUGE haul for Victor. We pretty much bent Boston over on this deal. Thing that makes this hurt even more is it makes little sense for the Red Sox. All these 'expert' sportswriters keep saying that it was a great move by the Sox.....but why?

They claim that Victor is the 'catcher of the future' that they need after Varitek.....um, what? They do realize that Varitek is not necessarily a free agent after this season right? And that Victor is a free agent after 2010 right?

Varitek has a mutual option for 2010. $5M team (which they'll likely decline now with Vic)...but also a $3M player option. Varitek is having a solid year (not that far off of Victor in fact), but he's not gonna get more than $3M on the open market (Pudge Rodriguez, a future 1st ballot HOFer got only $1.5M this winter)....so would it shock if he picks up his player option? It really shouldn't.
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written by Hermie13, August 03, 2009
And if Varitek picks up his option....do they leave him on the bench? Do they bench Ortiz or Lowell? Do they try and move Youkillis to LF? He did play there some his first year in the bigs.

The baffleing thing here is that the Red Sox NEEDED a SS. Lowrie is batting under .130 right now (makes Shoppach look like a hitting god), and Nick Green is hitting under .250.

Orlando Cabrera was there for the taking. He was a main cog in their 2004 title run. Why not him?!
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written by Hermie13, August 03, 2009
And they probably need more SP. They have depth...but Wakefield is hurt (and really was pitching rather poorly before hand anyways). Dice-K seems like a lost cause. No sure thing with Bucholtz down the stretch. Penny did some nice things, but is basically Pavano right now. Smotlz was a TERRIBLE add (didn't understnad it then, even less now). Is making over $5M guaranteed and has been shelled almost every start.

So they have Beckett as a sure thing...then Lester, who has been good..but not #2 in a rotation good for a championship caliber team.

They need a guy like Halladay or even a Washburn type.

Yet they wasted some solid trade chips (Hadagone is gonna be a stud) on a bat that was not needed.

Feels like they were just trying to stab the hearts out of Cleveland and didn't care about fixing their clubs needs.
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written by Hermie13, August 03, 2009
Will be very interesting to see what Victor does now for the 2011 season.

Does he stay in Boston? Go to the Mets? Come back to Cleveland?

Last one is probably a pipe dream....but Wedge will be gone (hopefully) and I don't think Shapiro will be the GM (he'll be team President), so it could be up to Antonetti to get a deal done....

Could happen.....but not holding my breath since we're talking about Cleveland here....
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written by curseofcleveland, August 03, 2009
Hermie,

Great insight as always, but I do have to absolutely respectfully disagree with you on the first comment that it has NOTHING to do with the structure of baseball. It has EVERYTHING to do with it.

I can't speak for the NHL, because I do not know about cap rules and am not really a fan, but the NBA it is obvious. There are rules in place to punish teams for going over the cap (like the dollar for dollar tax paid for being over the cap). Does it prevent over-spending? No, but it sure as hell curbs it.

There are still garbage trades in the NBA, but prospects aren't the same in basketball as in baseball. Furthermore, there's no NBA team with TEN FREAKING TIMES the payroll of another. That happens in baseball. Ex. Yankees at 209 million last year and the Marlins at about 22 million.

Enough said. The system is BROKEN!
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written by woodyvt, August 03, 2009
On paper it was good trade for the Indians, and it fits the Moneyball concept, but sometimes you have to pu that kind of logic aside and think about the legacy of the team. Moneyball works great in Oakland where tradition is so fleeting, but think of some of the ballplayers in the past that personified the Indians: right now the name that jumps into my mind is Omar. In the long run we lost more than just a player, we lost an Indian, who would still be playing , albeit in a more subdued role, and be the elder statesman in the clubhouse, and who, eventually would have moved into a non playing role of some capacity for the club. That is how you build traditon, even in today's market and free agency. Players will always negotiate for their best deal, but will stay because it is something special to be an Indian. This is not a pipe dream, sure you couldn't afford to keep Manny, Thome, CC, and the club destroyed their relationship w/ Cliff, but Omar, Victor: you always want them in the organization, in the clubhouse, around the younger players

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